Jesus told Peter that he would BUILD HIS CHURCH on him that mean that The Roman Catholic Church is the true c?

Many people believe that Jesus was saying that He would build His church on what Peter had just professed:





Matthew 16: 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”





17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell [3] shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 20 Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ.





I agree with this interpretation. To me it makes no sense to build the church on a fallible human. The Church is built on the foundation of Christ.





But you're right that this is the same passage that Catholicism uses to claim it is the true church.Jesus told Peter that he would BUILD HIS CHURCH on him that mean that The Roman Catholic Church is the true c?
Jesus did not build his church on Peter. Jesus built the church on the rock, or the declaration that Jesus Christ is the son of the living God. Peter declared this in the previous verses. Jesus would not build his father's church on a man for all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god. Jesus is the only one who has walked the path of man and not sinned.Jesus told Peter that he would BUILD HIS CHURCH on him that mean that The Roman Catholic Church is the true c?
Based on what?





Catholics don't practice the same church guidelines found in the NT.





Christ didn't teach purgatory, man-god popes, or Mary worship...neither did Peter.
No, it was the information that came from His Father in Heaven not Peter, therefore Peter could not be the founder, the church nor the namer.





It's Christ's and He is the Church Col 1.24


not Peter Rm 16.16
No; Jesus said He would build His church on THIS ROCK, not Peter. In fact, in the original Greek, the word used for Peter's name was a word meaning ';pebble';, but the word used for ';this rock'; was a word meaning boulder. Christ Himself is the ';rock'; that He said He would build His church on. He was just using Peter's name as an allegory to lead into a point He was making. The last thing Christ would want is His followers worshipping someone as weak in the faith as Peter!
No. Look at when Peter comes to Cornelius' house. They want to give him a high status, but he avoids such. People also do it to Paul and Barnabus and they try to make the people see they are just men like everyone else.





The papal system was not what God intended according to the Bible.
No, they are made up of man made rituals and rites and rules that are not found in the bible.
Not true. Jesus is STILL the head of the Christian congregation. Eph. 5:23 says: ';A husband is head of his wife as the Christ also is head of the congregation, he being a savior of [this] body.';
Your logic escapes me.


Peter has nothing whatsoever to do with the RCC...


Yeah, I know...Peter is supposed to be the ';first pope';...but somehow, I just don't see Peter even wearing an expensive ring, let alone letting anyone kneel at his feet to kiss it.


Besides, you do know that Paul ';rebuked Peter to his face';...something I highly doubt any Roman Catholic would dare to do to the pope...


And I hope you also know that BOTH Peter and Paul deferred to the AUTHORITY of the church in Jerusalem, which was being led at the time by James, Mary's son by Joseph, and therefore, Jesus' kid brother...half brother, anyhow...


It has always escaped me how the RCC makes out that Peter was the pope, or how they trace the ';succession of popes'; back to Peter, since the RCC didn't even exist for another 300 years...





Now, if you had said ';Catholic Church';, you would be closer to the truth. The term ';catholic'; simply means ';universal';...
The Roman Catholic Church is the true Church in Europe. You'd have to understand the history of Christianity to understand it all. The true Church is composed of the four Patriarchates, with Rome being one of them.





What we know today as the Catholic and Orthodox Churches compose the original Church. By way of example, the Church founded at Antioch is certainly the original Church, and it continues on even today. The Antiochian Church has an Archdiocese in North America, and can be see at www.antiochian.org








.
Yes it is true.


The Catholic church is the 1st Christian Church founded by Peter by God's authority.








Mt 16:18 - 19


Mt 28:18 - 20


Lk 10:16
yes, the catholic church is the true church that jesus had created with st peter as the first pope
The Scriptures clearly show that as foundation stones, all the apostles are equal. All of them, including Peter, rest upon Christ Jesus as the foundation cornerstone. (Eph 2:19-22; Re 21:2, 9-14) Peter himself identified the rock-mass (pe′tra) on which the congregation is built as being Christ Jesus. (1Pe 2:4-8)





It is also of interest that Augustine (354-430 C.E.), usually referred to as “Saint Augustine,” at one time believed that Peter was the rock-mass but later changed his view. Lange’s Commentary on the Holy Scriptures (Mt 16:18, ftn, p. 296) quotes Augustine as saying: “The rock is not so named from Peter, but Peter from the rock (non enim a Petro petra, sed Petrus a petra), even as Christ is not so called after the Christian, but the Christian after Christ. For the reason why the Lord says, ‘On this rock I will build my church,’ is that Peter had said: ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ On this rock, which thou hast confessed, says he, I will build my church. For Christ was the rock (petra enim erat Christus), upon which also Peter himself was built; for other foundation can no man lay, than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”—Translated and edited by P. Schaff, 1976.
who really cares?
Yep.
You got it. There is only one church.
It is in the bible, so just look it up
How do you get that Peter is the Roman Catholic Church? But seriously, the Bible is not talking about building the church on Peter either.
Yes my dear
That passage of scripture could also mean the doctrine of ';revelation'; is what the church is built on. As that passages states, ';flesh and blood hath not ';REVEALED'; this unto you, but my father which is in heaven.';
In order to counter this I am going to go to the original greek words used. Jesus said ';that thou art Peter'; the word he used for Peter was 'petros' meaning a small stone or rock kind of like a pebble. The 'rock' on which Christ said he would build his church was a 'petra' defined as a cliff or ledge. The only time the word 'petros' is used it is transalated as the name Peter or as a definition to his name in Jhn 1:42. The 'petra' used 16 times usually as a foundation to a house and in 1Cr 10:4 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


This states once and for all who the rock is on which the church was founded. Jesus Christ. Who else could prevail against Satan and hell. Certainly not Peter. Not only did he deny Christ after the statement but within 6 verses he tried to rebuke Jesus and was firmly put in his place. It is clear that Satan came against Peter successfully the night he denied Jesus three times and a very unstable rock for the church to be founded on.
Jesus didn't say he'd build His church on Peter. ';You are Peter, and upon this rock I build My church.'; That's Matthew 16:18. You forget that two verses up, Peter confessed to Jesus: ';Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.'; The ROCK that Jesus is talking about is the truth that Peter had just confessed. In other words, only the church that is married to the fact that Jesus is the Son of the living God is HIS church. The Catholics seem to be fornicating with ideas that saints are deities.
No, this is a confusion of Faith and the Bible. Even St Augustine who did believe in the Church, did not interpret this passage in that fashion.


A belief can be part of the Faith handed down from the Apostles without being tied definitively to a Bible passage that may or may not have that reference.





This is the danger of finding your Faith by passing the whole stream of Scripture through the sieve of your understanding hoping thereby to come up with some gold nuggets.
Probably shouldn't have asked this question buddy. :-)
The true Church of Christ , yes it is. Or rather the church of Christ subsists in the Catholic church.





That does not mean that the other communities are false BTW and that people cannot be saved in them.
Yes, this is exactly what it means. The people above who claim Christ was talking about Peter's faith and not Peter himself, has no logic to it. Consider:





According to some Protestants, after just calling Simon blessed and renaming him ';Rock,'; Jesus is suddenly talking about another ';rock'; (Peter's faith, or Jesus Himself)





Then Jesus says: And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.





Now they say He just as suddenly is talking to/about Peter again -- as He gives him the keys to Heaven!





If you read the entire verses, in order, in context, there is really no doubt that he is talking to Peter. Peter is the rock on which he has built his Church.





it simply can't be ignored that Peter was re-named Kepha (Rock!) and exercised authority among the apostles: he was always named first when the apostles were listed (Matthew 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13) -- sometimes it was only ';Peter and those who were with him'; (Luke 9:32); he was the apostles' spokesman (Matthew 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:69, Acts 4:1-13, Acts 2:37-41, Acts 5:15); he exhorted the other bishops (1 Peter 5:1); he was there at the most important moments (Matthew 14:28-32, Matthew 17:24, Mark 10:28); he was the first to proclaim Christ's divinity (Matthew 16:16); he was the first to preach the Gospel after Pentecost (Acts 2:14-40), thus starting the whole ';Church era';; he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7); he had the revelation that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48); he alone was told by Christ after His resurrection to ';Feed My lambs; feed My sheep'; (John 21:15-17) and strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:31-32).





But where is the word ';pope'; in the Bible? Well, where is the word ';father,';because that's what ';Pope'; means (';pope'; means ';papa';) . But you won't find the English word ';pope'; there any more than you'd find the word ';Trinity.'; The reality, though, is there, in Peter, from the very beginning. The ecclesiastical offices of Bishops (episkopos), elders (presbyteros, from which is derived the word ';priest';), and deacons (diakonos) were already in place in the New Testament (Acts 20:28, Philippians 1:1, Acts 1:20, 20:28, Philippians 1:1, 1 Timothy 3:1-2, Titus 1:7, 1 Peter 2:25, Acts 15:2-6, 21:18, Hebrews 11:2, 1 Peter 5:1, 1 Timothy 5:17). The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, is simply the successor of Peter, who was the first Bishop of Rome and head of the earthly Church.